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Nexus 7 General Forums => The Lounge: Off Topic Forum => Topic started by: loociddreemr on November 19, 2012, 04:21:33 PM
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Does anyone have experience with the various mini-pc's out there that operate on Android? I thought this would be a nifty gadget to have around. With the possibility of the nexus 7 not utilizing miracast, another device that can sync all your media and plug directly into any TV sounds like an essential for my geek arsenal. Being smaller than a candy bar and just as powerful as any other android device are big selling points.
Thoughts? Advice? Reviews?
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Do you mean 'Chromebooks'?
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I think what loociddreemr is referring to is something like this...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANDRIOD-MINI-PC-1GB-DDR3-4GB-1-5Ghz-Cortex-A8-Android-4-0-TV-BOX-FREE-GIFT-/321013473993 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANDRIOD-MINI-PC-1GB-DDR3-4GB-1-5Ghz-Cortex-A8-Android-4-0-TV-BOX-FREE-GIFT-/321013473993)
I've been thinking about it myself to be honest, the price of these are fantastic but how they perform I cannot comment so I too would be interested in feedback.
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Yeah Jay, that's what I'm referring to. You can pick these up for as little as $40. The ones with better specs only about $70. My kids are always begging to play the games on my N7. This might be an affordable alternative for a gaming console.
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That looks really cool. Almost worth just buying to mess with.
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I ordered a UG007 from a China based internet company three weeks ago. I've been harassing them for an ETA, and it finally shipped today. Here's some of the specs.
Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean
CPU:RK3066 Dual ARM Cortex-A9 1.6GHZ
Mali-400MP4 Quad-core GPU
RAM: DDR3 1GB
Internal Memory Nand Flash:8GB
BT+Wifi
Micro-SD slot, USB 2.0, HDMI
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Let us know how it preforms please loociddreemr, I'm definitely interested in getting one myself...
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Theres a lot of rom work being done for these over on freaktab. You might see whats most popular there.
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I just ordered a MK808 with Air Fly Mouse from Amazon. It will ship from China, too. Video review. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNyC7dcXx5w#ws)
Specs:
1.Android 4.1 Jelly Bean OS, Google Play Store pre-installed;
2.1.2Ghz Rockchip RK3066 Dual Core CPU, Quad core Mali-400 GPU;
3.1GB RAM /8GB storage;
4.Built in dual wifi antenna in this android device?which makes it more faster than other android tv boxes;
5.Support external SD card capacity:1GB-16GB ; Hard Disk: 1GB ~ 5TB;
6.Muliti-language supported
Specifications:
Chip: Rochip RK 3066, Cortex-A9
OS: Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
Display: HDMI OUTPUT(TV)
RAM: 1GB DDR3
Flash: 8GB Nand Flash
WIFI: 802.11B/G
2.4G: Support 2.4Ghz wireless remote keyboard and mouse
Hard Disk: SUPPORT SD Card: 1GB-16GB ; Hard Disk: 1GB ~ 5TB
I/0 Port:
USB2.0 host X 1;
OTG micro USBX1 ;
HDMI OUTPUTX1
Application software:Google Search/Email Gmail/Video Player/Audio Player / Alarm/ Clock /Apk Calculator Calendar/ES file/Explorer/Google Maps Market/NC Manager PDF/Reader /Photo Browser
Android APPS: YOUTUBE,FACEBOOK,ANGRY BIRDS,Skype,NETFIX,etc.
Audio support: AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, AMR-NB, AMR-WB, QCP, MP3, WMA, WAV, MIDI, M4A Video support: M-JPEG,MPEG-1,MPEG-2,MPEG-4,H.263,H.264,VC-1,DivX, Xvid, RealVideo,VP6,Sorenson Spark
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Did it come yet?
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Not expecting delivery until just before Christmas, since it is coming from China via US Customs. Ryan ordered earlier & should get his first.
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Received mine two days ago. Was able to successfully root. Haven't had much time to play with it, but seems cool so far. I have streamed a video sample from a movie on a NAS over Wi-Fi with no issues.
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Congratz! Looking forward to playing with mine. Any tips/links to rooting instructions or kits? Are you planning to flash a Finless ROM?
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I've been thinking about flashing a finless ROM. There isn't one specific for the ug007 yet, but the one for the MX1 supposedly works. I'm not flashing anything until I find a copy if the original firmware. The rooting was kind of a pain, yet simple. There's a utility that installs the driver, then a utility that flashes root. The root utility reboots the device the times, and every time you have to go back into the settings on the device and tell the USB host to connect to PC. If you have any problems, I can walk you through it, send you links, etc...
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Can the UG007 run vanilla MK808 firmware? If so, here's a link to the MK808 firmware. (http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/mk808/mk808-new-firmware-2921.html)
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From my understanding, it's slightly different hardware. The first version didn't include Bluetooth but the ug007 does. I read in another form that someone soft bricked trying to flash the mk808 to the ug007.
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Watched a movie last night on my mini. Streamed the movie using Es File explorer and MxPlayer over my home network with Wi-Fi. Not a single skip or buffer pause.
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I guess that doesn't tell us much, other than the processor, RAM, and OS can do the job. I streamed the 25th anniversary performance of Les Miserables on SWMBO's quad core AMD laptop. First time streamed flawlessly. Second play had a slight one-time audio burp.
Benchmark testing shows the RK3066's dual-core Cortex-A9 CPU is darn slow compared to the quad-core Tegra 3. You get what you pay for, in this case. Still, a long way from the MK802.
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Sounds pretty cool to me. Mini movie theater.
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or big screen video game player & web surfer.
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Ryan, here are instructions on how to dump your firmware. (http://www.freaktab.com/showthread.php?401-Dumping-ROM-using-ADB-guide)
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow.
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In definitely going to be doing that this weekend. I haven't flashed anything on this device and its killing me.
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I'm hoping mine will be delivered soon.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow (49.6 mpg over 38k miles in Scion xB)
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My wife had a total thyroidectomy yesterday, so I'll be home with the time to play with it. Its been getting a little more use as I let there kids play games on it, but I primarily use it as a htpc.
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Best wishes for a speedy recovery for your wife. Enjoy your time off, and let us know how the tweaking goes.
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Hope that your wife has a speedy recovery and is ok . Glad you are getting some time at home with the family.
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Thanks guys, I appreciate your thoughts.
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Darrell,
Thanks for the suggestion on the system dump. The method in your link did not work, but it got my wheels turning. I was able to dump the files using another method, and now I'm working on creating a flashable img file. Bob, the developer of Finless has taken me and the project under his wing. Looks like I'm moving forward as the only developer of ROMs and mods for the UG007. I already have a version of CWM recovery that I put together, but I'm not sure that's the way to go. The issue is the lack of physical buttons, and display drivers.
There are others out there with soft bricked devices and I want to help get them back up and running.
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Don't know if you tried adb push and pull for nand dumps. Found Livesuite 1.11 on that forums polaroid section if you get that far. Haven't tested it yet to see if it's still Engrish. Which is your thread?
http://download.goclever.net/serwis/tab/LiveSuitPack_1.11.zip (http://download.goclever.net/serwis/tab/LiveSuitPack_1.11.zip)
Nevermind, found it. Rock chip. Not livesuite. Think I'll wait to get one after roms are all cooked! Good luck with all.
You will be dissiminated, capacitance is futile. You have been warned! (Don't Borg it up)
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Ive been using the adb shell commands to perform the partition dumps, but I;m stilll working on getting the full NAND dump. I have retrieved the backup.img, system.img, boot.img, and recovery.img.
Heres 's an example of what I've been able to do.
root@android:/ # dd if=/dev/mtd/mtd4 of=/sdcard/backup.img
dd if=/dev/mtd/mtd4 of=/sdcard/backup.img
786432+0 records in
786432+0 records out
402653184 bytes transferred in 105.434 secs (3819006 bytes/sec)
root@android:/ # adb pull /sdcard/backup.img
adb pull /sdcard/backup.img
2804 KB/s (402653184 bytes in 140.193s)
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Very cool, Ryan! You are the UG007 trailblazer.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow. 49.6 mpg avg for 38k miles in non-hybrid Scion xB
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The postman just delivered my MK808 & air fly mouse!
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow. 49.6 mpg avg for 38k miles in non-hybrid Scion xB
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Sweet! Let me know if you come across any issues. Im assuming that you are rooting? Can you send a picture of the app drawer? I'm curious if they use the same launcher.
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I'm rooted & running Finless 1.5a ROM. I'll try to post pix tomorrow.
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I've been kind of curious about the Finless ROM, and why the CPU clocks are set at 1.2ghz. The ROM for mine has clocks set at 1.6ghz with the same CPU. After all the work I've been doing, the manufacturer finally released the stock ROM. I'm debating on trying Finless and seeing what options work on these devices fit custom ROMs, but I don't want to sacrifice the clock speeds. Have you seen anything on overclocking this ROM?
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I ran Antutu on the stock MK808 ROM & clocked ~9800 (v. ~12300 for the stock Nexus 7). I only expected 6600-6700. I've tweaked the N7 to 13133 without over clocking.
So far, Antutu has crashed the Finless 1.5a ROM every time I've run it.
I understand the Finless ROMs are designed to optimize wi-fi through-put, but it looks like they come with a cost.
Edit: The Antutu issue is reportedly an inadequate power supply problem. I corrected the Antutu results above from 9300.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow. 49.6 mpg avg for 38k miles in non-hybrid Scion xB
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Cool, Bob cooks some great roms.
If I were to use one of these devices as an HTPC, is there any way to get dvr functionality with a cable or ota tuner and xbmc? I'm tying up my laptop doing this. Anyone tried it?
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Matt,
The inputs are lacking on these devices. There is a single USB input and a micro USB on mine. As far as functionality otherwise, if there's an app for it, it can do it. There hardware is not to shabby and can definitely keep up with the trending technology. Its basically a android tablet interface with an external screen. If you can get your Nexus to do what you are looking for, a mini can do it with the addition of an external storage slot.
Darrell,
What Android version is your current ROM? The main reason I selected the UG007 was because of the clock speeds and it runs 4.1.1 out of the box. First one on the market to run Jelly Bean.
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Ryan,
I ran Antutu successfully twice with the Nexus 7 charger. Results were 10131 & 9986 v. stock MK808 9866 (I was incorrect in earlier post). IDK why my CPU is clocked at 1.2 and yours at 1.6. They seem to be the identical chipset. Others have successfully over clocked MK808s to 1.6.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/16/ageraqed.jpg)
My MK808 came with 4.1.1.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/16/memy3e8u.jpg)
Here's the app drawer photo.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/16/u7e3a6ur.jpg)
A photo of the Finless boot animation.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/16/utaquvej.jpg)
Finally, here's a photo of the MK808 next to the Nexus 7.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/16/he2yda8y.jpg)
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow. 49.6 mpg avg for 38k miles in non-hybrid Scion xB
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I've officially come to the conclusion that my stock firmware is garbage. I've ran Antutu multiple times with different power sources and I barely reached over 7000 once. I think I'm going to flash Finless and see what improvements i can make. I'm going to work on over clocking the kernel too.
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I am interested in this Loocid. Please keep us posted. That Fly remote is FLY!
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Ah..HTPC = home theater personal computer. I sometimes feel inadequate when the big dogs start playing in some of these threads. We have some amazing members here. Killer amount of knowledge.
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It can get cryptic with all these acronyms and emoticons and spell incorrections flying around. I've had to look up a few myself lol. Dvr is digital video recording, which is a big part of an htpc. Like a vcr on a hard drive. Since android has to have usb drivers compiled in the kernel, I wondered if tv tuners were included. Then with a usb hub and an external hard drive an android media center analogue would be needed to schedule recordings. I'll just keep lurking til someone makes it work and then pounce on it. ;D
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I've officially come to the conclusion that my stock firmware is garbage. I've ran Antutu multiple times with different power sources and I barely reached over 7000 once. I think I'm going to flash Finless and see what improvements i can make. I'm going to work on over clocking the kernel too.
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Sorry to hear that. It looks like the MK808, despite fewer features, is smoother & better supported than your UG007.
The antennae on my MK808 are junk. I'm getting sporadic wi-fi signal from my router with the MK808, while my N7 sees 7 other SSIDs. Here's the front antenna,
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x397/BestmpgxB/IMG_1867.jpg)
And here is the rear antenna
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x397/BestmpgxB/IMG_1870.jpg)
I'm going to take the antenna off an old wireless router, and soldier it to my MK808.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow (49.6 mpg over 38k miles in Scion xB)
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Finally, here is the old router and its antenna.
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x397/BestmpgxB/IMG_1873.jpg)
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow (49.6 mpg over 38k miles in Scion xB)
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Cool bird. Let us know how it works out.
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Some wifi problems can be caused by radio frequency interference (rfi). I've got an rf detector that I use to find noise so that my stratocaster won't hum.
The worst rfi that I've found comes from old crt type televisions and fluorescent lights on dimmers designed for incandescents. Any appliances with worn brushes on the motors. Old transformers with small internal shorts between windings.
Try a usb extension cable if you have an old tv. I haven't checked any plasma types but lcds are great.
A cheap rf detector would be an am radio tuned between stations, or a single coil guitar pickup with a small portable amplifier. The one I use is available from electrical supplies and some hw stores for around 100$, more if you want the signal generator to trace broken wire locations.
Or it could be the antenna, like you say.
Oops, hdmi extension cable.
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I think i heard before that some people thought the WiFi was broken on the 808 because it was shoddy. I know there are several reviews that slam on the signal strength even right next to the source. I've never had too many problems with mine. I did a only once a couple days ago. I gave it s hotspot equally distanced as the router, and it was fine. Most likely interference.
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I bought a wifi repeater that I'm returning today. It wouldn't play nice with my router. I need to quit bottom feeding, there's a reason things go on sale.
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My soldering skills suck, so I gave up on soldering the coax to the router antenna, but I did rig up two pairs of 1/2 wave antennae. I have a steady, if weak signal most of the time. I've seen four of the neighborhood SSIDs, and speedtest download results range from 11500 kbps to 500 kbps, and typically around 4000-5000 kbps. It isn't great, but it's better than OEM, and is at least functional now.
Ryan, I ran a couple of CPU tweaking programs, and they all indicate the max speed is 1.6ghz.
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Darrell,
So you are currently clocked at 1.6ghz on Finless 1.5? I was informed that ROM was ran slower. What speed does Antutu report?
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Ryan, I'm apparently clocked @ 1.008 ghz. I got Antutu results of 9866 with the OEM ROM, & mid-9900s - 10133? with the Finless 1.5a ROM.
I'm currently running Dero's 1080 p kernel with the Finless 1.5a ROM . It runs slower than the stock 720 p Finless 1.5a kernel & ROM, as expected
Testing the Dero kernel /Finless ROM at different maximum clock speeds gave the following Antutu results:
Clock Antutu scores
1008 6783, 8398
1600 8283, 8532
1200 8404
Other than the first 6783 score, the others do not seem to vary in proportion to their clock speeds.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow (49.6 mpg over 38k miles in Scion xB)
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Update: I succeeded in soldering the antenna wire of my old router antenna to my MK808. Its performance is vastly superior. My signal strength is unchanged, but data download speeds are consistently around 10000 kbps, the same as my N7s get.
I'm satisfied now with my MK808. I can stream movies with it with no dropouts.
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Cool, the 10000 kilo bauds is probably your isp cap. 2000 kbps upload?
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That's it, Matt. 10000 kbps downloading, and 1600 kbps uploading are normally what I see. Is this mid-grade? I think I'm paying for more than the basic DSL package. I see talk about 65 mbs connection speed, but that's a theoretical/ideal capacity?
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I believe the 65mb/s is the connection to the router itself. A theoretical capability.
Thanks for the data you collected Darell. This is really interesting. You would expect the scores to be proportional to speed. There's a breakdown of the scores. I think I'm going to play with there speeds and collect some data myself with different kernels and ROMs. The bottom line of mine still stinks on the stock ROM.
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I'm on att uverse elite, which is 5mbs down and 1 mbs up. 25$ /month. 250gB per month. Baud, bit, byte. Baud has checksums and packet resends so it doesn't exactly equal bits. My router is 802.11g with 54mb connection. Yours must be n.
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That sounds like a great deal Matt. Can you take it on the road with you?
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Not a great deal, and it's not mobile. Although there are att hotspots. Mcd's I guess.
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I've got a uverse upgrade Internet package.
I suspected my earlier test results, so I retested. This time I went below 1.008.ghz, and the results correlate nicely to clock speed. They also show my MK808 CPU runs @ 1.6.ghz.
Max clock Antutu
1600............ 8264
1416............ 8247
1210............ 7302, 7379
1008............ 6901
. 816............ 6087
. 604............ 4558
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow (49.6 mpg over 38k miles in Scion xB)
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If you really want an inexpensive device to squirt media out to your TV, you should check out one of these KDlinks 680
http://www.amazon.com/kdLinks-HD680-Extreme-Network-Built-In/dp/B005KFHVES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356035260&sr=8-1&keywords=kdlinks+hd680 (http://www.amazon.com/kdLinks-HD680-Extreme-Network-Built-In/dp/B005KFHVES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356035260&sr=8-1&keywords=kdlinks+hd680)
PRO:
Sends any file/codec to TV I have tried. Impressive network connectivity, can plug in keyboard, mouse, 4 TB hard drive, Flash Memory, powered USB hub, control it from remote it comes with, keyboard, Nexus 7 with iMediaShare etc. YouTube app works fine, I can stream to it and TV thru it 1080p, it can play my PCs DVD drive or a local one, and more.
Has a "drop a file into me icon and I will play it to your tv" PC app that comes with it. You can send files (or manage) over the network to the attached HD drives. DLNA.
CON:
Built in browser is buggy to say the least.
Conclusion:
Impressive as hell for 100 bux.
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Sounds great for heavy-duty video buffs. I'm just a dabbler interested in playing video games & web surfing, so this $60 MK808 is nearly ideal for me.
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Doing some more reading, I see the highest MK808 CPU speed attainable is 1400 MHz, and only if the governor is set to "performance." So that explains why my Antutu results plateau at 1400.
I think I changed some parameter during my initial testing. I only had to mess up the 1200 MHz test to get the apparently odd results. I also messed with the "interactive" governor setting, and had two CPU control programs running. I paid more attention to detail during the second round of testing.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow. 49.6 mpg avg for 38k miles in non-hybrid Scion xB
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I don't have an HDMI-capable monitor, or a 1020p television, so I viewed my mini-PC on a friend's tv, and flashed the original 720p kernel back. My Antutu baseline is 9984.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow. 49.6 mpg avg for 38k miles in non-hybrid Scion xB
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I wish I had the time to collect some of this data as well. With the holidays, I've had no time at all to poke around with my gadgets.
This is some great research Darrell!
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Thanks, Ryan. It was your post that let me know these dandy devices exist. I flashed kizs' Version 2 1.5GHz 720p kernel with the Finless 1.5a ROM, and consistently get 10800 Antutu scores.
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FWIW, Finless' kernel sets the MK808 CPU's max clock speed to 1.008GHz, whille kizs' kernel sets it to 1.5GHz. Finless is conservative about overrheating..
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Finless Bob told me that the kernel is locked because of the proprietary drivers. Alternate kernels can be used on different devices, but complete compatibility cannot be guaranteed.
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Bob is generous in sharing his knowledge. I've tried to thank him, but my registration never went through on Freaktab, and my followup request has been ignored.
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I found an eBay vendor selling MK808s for $40. I couldn't resist, & ordered 4. I didn't know much about air mouse keyboards when I bought my MK808, so I ordered an RC12. Now, I think I'll try an RC11 & a q7.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow (49.6 mpg over 38k miles in Scion xB)
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Wow! What do you plan on doing with them?
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I'll give one to my son, one to my daughter's family for the most tech-minded grandchild, and I'll sell one to a friend. That leaves me two to play with.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow. 49.6 mpg avg for 38k miles in non-hybrid Scion xB
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I'll give one to my son, one to my daughter's family for the most tech-minded grandchild, and I'll sell one to a friend. That leaves me two to play with.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow. 49.6 mpg avg for 38k miles in non-hybrid Scion xB
I got home from a road trip to learn my shipment wasn't delivered because of "insufficient address," even though I have lived in the same house for 25 years. I was going to write to the seller , but he's no longer an eBay seller.
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Ouch... hope you used PayPal. I'd file a dispute immediately!
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Sorry but sounds like you have a problem. I remember getting screwed in my earlY days and had to jump thru hoops for months just to get a third of what I got fzicked over.
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Yes, I used PayPal, & I've opened the dispute resolution process. It's an open & shut case, as far as I'm concerned. Seller has my money, and I have no product.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow (49.6 mpg over 38k miles in Scion xB)
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Hope it is as painless as possible Bird.
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I've been playing with one of these for a couple of weeks: http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Tronsmart-Prometheus-Amlogic-M6-Dual-Core-Android-4-1-Jelly-Bean-TV-Box-1GB-RAM-4GB-ROM-1-5GHz-CPU-Wifi-3D-XNMC---Black-313667.html (http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Tronsmart-Prometheus-Amlogic-M6-Dual-Core-Android-4-1-Jelly-Bean-TV-Box-1GB-RAM-4GB-ROM-1-5GHz-CPU-Wifi-3D-XNMC---Black-313667.html)
It's more expensive than the MK808 but it's pretty cool looking and works well for me. I also have the RC11 airmouse/keyboard and it works great for being able to operate the device from across the room.
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how does XBMC work on it ? Can you install all the 'usual' channels and have them output to the TV ok ?
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XBMC works OK on it, not sure what you mean by the "usual channels". I really don't care for XBMC so after seeing that it worked OK, I uninstalled it.
I've tried XBMC on Windows, Linux and Android and don't see what the hubbub is regarding it as it just seems to add an additional software layer that's not needed. I prefer to use a video player app to play vids, a music player app to play music, a picture viewer to view pics, a weather app to check the weather, etc... don't need all those rolled into a single app with a terrible interface.
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XBMC works OK on it, not sure what you mean by the "usual channels". I really don't care for XBMC so after seeing that it worked OK, I uninstalled it.
I've tried XBMC on Windows, Linux and Android and don't see what the hubbub is regarding it as it just seems to add an additional software layer that's not needed. I prefer to use a video player app to play vids, a music player app to play music, a picture viewer to view pics, a weather app to check the weather, etc... don't need all those rolled into a single app with a terrible interface.
As far as those particular media types and locations, you have a point just not much of one. However, there are a host of additional streamed media coming from the web as well as transformations to the streams for compatibility that you do NOT mention. A media server like Plex (an XBMC fork) can change a flash sourced stream to something more compatible to the Flash incompatible destination device on the fly via alternative means as well. For example Plex can take a HD 1920x1080 MKV w/ dolby 7.1 sound file and tranform the output into one that is designed to be played on a WIFI connected Android phone or tablet while the same file is served to an HD TV over the LAN and an old 4:3 TV via HDMI. All that is aside from the fact that XBMC or Plex can be run from alternate devices like a Roku or be directed at DLNA or UPnP devices that those apps just may not see and can not serve media to.
So, yes, you just don't see.
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... So, yes, you just don't see.
OR - I don't need or want to stream that Flash content! Regardless, XBMC isn't useful to me.
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The seller refunded my money for the mini-PCs. Now I have to start shopping all over again.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow (49.6 mpg over 38k miles in Scion xB)
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Good to hear Bird. I wonder why there was a problem to begin with?
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I live on a street that is often misread as either W I St or W 1st St. Maybe something got lost in the translation to/from Chinese, or the postman had a bad day?
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow (49.6 mpg over 38k miles in Scion xB)
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I placed my order for 3 MK808 B mini-PCs yesterday. 3 for the price of 4 doesn't seem like much of a bargain, but these have bluetooth, & the seller is legitimate. The best price I can find for MK808s (sans bt) is $49.
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My 3 mini-PCs arrived Monday. They're rooted, with basic software installed, & ready to ship to my kids.
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