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Title: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: PDHopkins on October 26, 2012, 08:12:05 PM
I have had problems logging onto the internet in cafes.
The Nexus will not consistently show the redirected password web page which MUST be passed to log on.
I have found no information on this problem at all.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: bjs229 on October 26, 2012, 08:52:17 PM
Did you try forgetting or deleting the hot spot connection that you are having trouble with in wifi settings and retry?
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: PDHopkins on October 26, 2012, 08:59:53 PM
I have tried that several times, with no results at all.
As I have said the redirected log on page, that is needed, almost never appears.
At times I have been able to log on, but the redirected page will not consistently appear.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: birdastrompgman on October 27, 2012, 01:51:45 AM
It's a browser issue. I have 3 browsers, and I have to check all 3 for the redirected web page, reloading whatever page is open in each browser. If all 3 fail to have the redirected web page, then I have to try to open a new web page in each browser, until I get the redirected web page. I have always found it/them.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: matt on October 27, 2012, 10:08:53 AM
Try to bookmark the push page once you do find it.
Some servers have problems with android.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: bjs229 on October 28, 2012, 02:26:09 AM
I agree it being a browser issue. I keep 3 on hand just in case. What shows up when you bypass the splash page? Just a generic cannot connect to the Internet page?
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: chaikenj on October 28, 2012, 06:41:02 PM
At San Francisco Airport (SFO) I had the same problem.  There is free WiFi for navigating around the airport (which I easily connected to), but if you want internet access you have to get to another login page.  I was unable to get to that page.  I tried about 15 times, using either Chrome or Firefox.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: matt on October 29, 2012, 12:43:10 PM
This may give some info on the issue.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=8030 (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=8030)

Be nice to have a list of generic log in addresses for various web servers. Numeric, not domain name.

Try typing in index.HTML, it might redirect to log in.

Or go find the IT guy and nag at him. They love to be interrupted to do PR on the problem they were working on. Taste of iron in my mouth.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: PDHopkins on October 30, 2012, 06:22:20 PM
I have found that the Chrome browser help section will display the direction to
unloaded redirected sign in page. It is easy to save this information for future use.

I have looked into this further and found that the help section will not work consistently.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: PDHopkins on November 02, 2012, 06:48:25 PM
I have found a down load app that seems to take care of my problems.
I connected with no errors after I installed the Wi Fi Connection Manager.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: bjs229 on November 02, 2012, 07:26:59 PM
What seemed to be the cause of the problem? I go to many places that put me in the situation of getting thru a secured hot spot or Internet connection SPLASH page. I have never had this issue. Why do you need a special app? Who was the provider that was giving you the problem? Was it just the Nexus or have you been to this same area with another device?
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: birdastrompgman on November 02, 2012, 08:20:33 PM
Quote from: PDHopkins on November 02, 2012, 06:48:25 PM
I have found a down load app that seems to take care of my problems.
I connected with no errors after I installed the Wi Fi Connection Manager.

Thanks, but this doesn't address the OP's issue.  We don't have problems establishing connections.  What we're discussing is finding the consent acknowledgement redirection page that confronts us in cafes, motels, college campuses, and other public sites.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: matt on November 02, 2012, 08:38:09 PM
According to app description:WiFi connection manager

10. Auto detect Web Authentication.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: birdastrompgman on November 02, 2012, 09:27:29 PM
Hmm.  I try to keep an open mind.  Maybe this will do it?  I can't grasp how the app can know which sites ask for consenting to terms, which ask for user ids and passwords, etc.  It might save the data, but I deal with similar but not identical splash screens at different Rodeway Inns, campuses of the same college, and different facilities of the same HMO.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: matt on November 03, 2012, 09:09:54 AM
Maybe on the web servers you have accessed they have patched so that the android internal domain name resolution problem is fixed. There's a link above to the issue but it's a bit technical. I was hoping an IT expert could explain it so that even my tiny little brain could understand.
In the meantime seems to be an app for that.

It seems that android wants the full domain.page address while other operating systems will accept just the .page when already connected to domain. Or something like that. So patching a webserver like apache might mean recoding all short names to full version or using xxx.xx.xx actual addresses. Sorta.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: chaikenj on November 04, 2012, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: bjs229 on November 02, 2012, 07:26:59 PM
What seemed to be the cause of the problem? I go to many places that put me in the situation of getting thru a secured hot spot or Internet connection SPLASH page. I have never had this issue. Why do you need a special app?
Can you describe what happens that you describe as "never had this issue"? Does a browser page open automatically after the WiFi connection starts?  If yes, what browser is it?  If no, what action do you take that lets you authenticate?
Title: Re: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: bjs229 on November 04, 2012, 10:36:27 AM
Quote from: chaikenj on November 04, 2012, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: bjs229 on November 02, 2012, 07:26:59 PM
What seemed to be the cause of the problem? I go to many places that put me in the situation of getting thru a secured hot spot or Internet connection SPLASH page. I have never had this issue. Why do you need a special app?
Can you describe what happens that you describe as "never had this issue"? Does a browser page open automatically after the WiFi connection starts?  If yes, what browser is it?  If no, what action do you take that lets you authenticate?
What I meant by never had this issue relates to the Original POSTER. If I go to a place say a business and I try and access their free Internet. Sometimes my browser whichever one I am using will redirect to a Splash page saying welcome to our free sign in log in page. You then follow the instructions of either the page or the business sometimes gives you a card with the codes on it. I have been in situations where the page is also my cable provider and all I need to do is input my username and password. Kind of elementary.
The problem for the op was the browser wouldn't take them to the entry gate/log in page for whatever reason. I was wondering what would come up and what the error would say.
Sounds like they have it handled.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: bjs229 on November 04, 2012, 10:40:01 AM
No a browser Window doesn't open automatically after WiFi authentication. When you open your browser to try and browse the Web you are directed to SPLASH page which usually give you instructions on how to connect to their service.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: chaikenj on November 04, 2012, 04:15:00 PM
@bjs229  ...  I have the same problem as the person who started this thread.  I am connected to WiFi but the next screen does not pop up.  You are thinking the solution has been found?  Is it to install the WiFi Connection Wizard?
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: bjs229 on November 04, 2012, 09:43:05 PM
You will have to talk to the original poster. I cannot emulate the problem.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: PDHopkins on November 06, 2012, 02:05:54 AM
As I have previously said it seems that the Wi Fi Connection Manager App takes care of all of the connection problems that I had previously had. As to the why details I have no clue.
The posting from matt seems to pointing to the actual problem, if you really need that information.
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: PDHopkins on December 10, 2012, 11:33:09 PM
I think I have only one more comment on this.
I have noted that the WiFi sign on page in the coffee shop will not down load directly. Instead it will show up as an question icon at to top left on the screen.  This is where the running apps and downloads are shown.  A downward gesture at the center top of the screen will show the details.  Clicking on Question item will cause the sign on page to be shown.

PDHopkins
Title: Re: Problems logging on in cafe
Post by: bjs229 on December 11, 2012, 12:26:54 AM
So it shows up in Notifications. That is informative.

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