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Title: TV Portal
Post by: bjs229 on January 12, 2013, 03:36:07 PM

Does anyone else encounter horrible skipping and stuttering with this app?  Sometimes it runs flawlessly but then it just is unwatchable. I use MX like suggested and my Wi-Fi is strong. I go down the line of the other sites serving the show and it seems hit or miss. Just as a test I open YouTube when the skipping is happening and it runs fine. Any ideas?
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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: bjs229 on January 12, 2013, 03:37:56 PM
Test

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: loociddreemr on January 12, 2013, 04:38:49 PM
Yeah, i encounter the same problem. It comes from the buffer on the incoming stream. If the streaming server can't keep up, it will pause to buffer. Max buffer cache is only like five minutes.

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: matt on January 12, 2013, 05:02:14 PM
If a lot of people are watching the same vid, the host server may not be keeping up. For incoming buffer use bs player, you can change the size. Try watching late nites or less popular shows?
Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: bjs229 on January 13, 2013, 02:02:32 AM
Thanks guys.  Appreciate the insight.  I thought it was my hookup.

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: matt on January 13, 2013, 06:55:30 AM
If you run speedtest, you'll notice it picks the closest server to you. If you could change it to a server in China, say, you would see quite a difference. No telling where the portal feeds are hosted, or the bandwidth they have. When downloading pc files, I try to pick a usa mirror.
Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: bjs229 on January 14, 2013, 03:54:24 PM
I watch only two shows at the moment.  Homeland and
The First 48.

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: Bigtroutz on January 16, 2013, 12:26:48 AM
almost all TVportal "contributors" are in Europe - particularly eastern Europe where copyright lawyers and their lackeys have no recourse.

You can do a IP lookup on the various dotcoms, etc and see where they are in particular, eg Switzerland, Romania, Moldavia, etc.

Generally if I get too much buffering from one site, I simply move on to the next one in the list after noting where I am in the play time and simply move the playback to that spot at the new connection.  I rarely have the same issue from all of the possible sources.  Typically, some sites always sux and others are generally more reliable.
Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: bjs229 on January 16, 2013, 02:20:55 AM
I do that same trick too Trout. Trying all the links.. I have to say I just got my Verizon Fios hooked up at the new place and it is running a lot better. Thanks for the insight on the servers.  I was wondering how they work this whole thing. Still can't install the paid version.  Seems like it is banned on the playstore for a while now. I follow them on FB.  Cool dudes. They took the cap off of my app knowing that I can't upgrade. Still have ads but hey WTH.

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: MrFound on January 16, 2013, 02:49:15 AM
tnks on the insight on the servers,  I've never had bad scattering(knock on wood),  i only watch one show(shameless)  for now.  i love it(the american,  not the uk version. even if im grateful to uk cause they invented it)

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: matt on January 16, 2013, 07:43:27 AM
It's been back on google play for some time.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mitechlt.tvportal.play

Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: loociddreemr on January 16, 2013, 09:26:31 AM
If you had TV portal prior to new years, then its possible that you have the old version that cannot be upgraded. If your icon is the grey TV, you have there old version. There is no cap with this version, but you cannot remove ads. I couldn't remove them with my ad blocker either. The new version downloadable from Google play has a blue filmstrip as the launcher icon. The UI is updated for tablets and hi-res devices. This version is currently upgradable to remove ads and cap. The current price is $.99 however, I received a notification that the price will soon be increasing to $1.99. Might be a gimmick, but upgrade yours ASAP. Definitely worth the buck.

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: JayJ on January 16, 2013, 10:28:04 AM
A buck is about 63-5p here in the UK but TV Portal want £1.29 to upgrade, what's with that? Okay so £1.29 isn't allot but why are you guys paying $1 USD and here in the UK we pay $2 USD.

I'm not tight, it's principle...

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: bjs229 on January 16, 2013, 01:26:36 PM
Thanks guys. My version gray /gold was giving me a message saying you watched two episodes blah  blah.. Until I emailed them. I will check out the new one.

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: bjs229 on January 16, 2013, 01:28:51 PM
Weird. I just used the link to the store and there was no charge for the blue version.  It just had an install button.
Ah  now I see. Upgrade 1.99
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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: matt on January 16, 2013, 03:23:56 PM
A buck is about 63-5p here in the UK but TV Portal want £1.29 to upgrade, what's with that? Okay so £1.29 isn't allot but why are you guys paying $1 USD and here in the UK we pay $2 USD.

I'm not tight, it's principle...

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Looks like they got the exchange rate backwards, email the dev. The British monetary system can be confusing, Terry Pratchett had a hilarious explanation in a Discworld book. Pounds, shillings, crowns, quids, farthings, sovereigns, thruppence. So 63-5p is 58 pence? Or 63 & 1/2 p.

I've been watching Corner Gas, a Canadian sit-com. It's pulled from youtube servers.
Also catching up on episodes missed due to news prioritization. (Slow car chases, rain clouds, etc.)

I generally pay my traffic tickets, instead of spending a lot of time in arguing and postponements. Can't eat principles, and they don't keep me warm and dry.
Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: Bigtroutz on January 16, 2013, 11:47:07 PM
That's one of the things I don't quite get about Android, bjs, the fact the too often you must uninstall the old app in order to upgrade successfully.

And that was the case when I updated by TVportal as well as so many others.  At this point, I just do it automatically - uninstall -- install --- update completed rofl


Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: bjs229 on January 17, 2013, 02:08:46 AM
@Matt
I tried to eat my principal once, I got an extra day of suspension.
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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: bjs229 on January 17, 2013, 02:11:07 AM

Your right Troutzy, although I still like a little twist and turn along the way sometimes. It keeps things interesting.
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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: JayJ on January 17, 2013, 05:40:34 AM
I've been using Android for about three years now and there's only been a couple of occasions where I've had to install a new version of an application?

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Title: Re: Re: TV Portal
Post by: MrFound on January 17, 2013, 08:03:40 AM
I've been using Android for about three years now and there's only been a couple of occasions where I've had to install a new version of an application?

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never happened to me,  the "most annoying"  thing was that I've had to manually update few apps even if they were supposed to do it automatically

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: JayJ on January 17, 2013, 05:04:33 PM
See I don't do automatic updates, I like to know what updates brings so read the changelog before or whilst updating...

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: bjs229 on January 17, 2013, 05:11:58 PM
I don't auto update either. Sometimes I never get notification that an app has changed though.

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: Bigtroutz on January 17, 2013, 09:46:48 PM
I've been using Android for about three years now and there's only been a couple of occasions where I've had to install a new version of an application?

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I had quite a few that would not update properly when 4.2 updated.  Reinstalls all worked fine however.  I do use alot of apps, I have to say, mostly just trying alts out to see which I prefer, like I have 4 eReaders, had 4 music players, etc.

most recent ones were FireFox (Beta) and TV portal tho. Both needed a reinstall.
Title: Re: Re: TV Portal
Post by: JayJ on January 18, 2013, 03:29:52 AM
I had quite a few that would not update properly when 4.2 updated.  Reinstalls all worked fine however.  I do use alot of apps, I have to say, mostly just trying alts out to see which I prefer, like I have 4 eReaders, had 4 music players, etc.

most recent ones were FireFox (Beta) and TV portal tho. Both needed a reinstall.

That would due to new file system structure, where apps data and caches were stored changed and some apps probably didn't like to new file structure.
I recommend a factory data reset with any major OS update, to some degree 4.2 wasn't a major update but with the change in the layout of the internal storage the best way to update would include a factory data reset.

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Title: Re: Re: TV Portal
Post by: MrFound on January 18, 2013, 08:33:12 AM
See I don't do automatic updates, I like to know what updates brings so read the changelog before or whilst updating...

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i usually check afterwards,  which i know is a bad habit... usually they get better with updates tho.  except skype,  which i don't automatically update cause some of them are useless


I don't auto update either. Sometimes I never get notification that an app has changed though.

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that's what pisses me off the most about!  i have few apps that i don't automatically update and some (skype for example lol)  sometimes doesn't notify me

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: Bigtroutz on January 18, 2013, 03:55:01 PM
what's even more annoying is when I tell an  app NOT TO AUTO-UPDATE and it does that anyway !!

Firefox beta was the latest offender - it updated like WinXP and would not let me boot the device in peace.  When I turn on my puter to use, I want to USE it not wait forever for it to pig the internet connection and cpu. 

Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: matt on January 18, 2013, 06:08:16 PM
I finally got dsl when it took 3-5 hours to access my email on dial up. On the computer, Zonealarm firewall can block quite a bit of the updating. I don't update anything until I see reviews. Except antivirus.
Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: loociddreemr on January 19, 2013, 05:26:13 PM

Does anyone else encounter horrible skipping and stuttering with this app?  Sometimes it runs flawlessly but then it just is unwatchable. I use MX like suggested and my Wi-Fi is strong. I go down the line of the other sites serving the show and it seems hit or miss. Just as a test I open YouTube when the skipping is happening and it runs fine. Any ideas?
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Barry,

I get the horrible skipping with TVPortal as well.  I've been working with the developer to try and resolve it.  We went through the steps to attempt to get MX Player to work, but could not remedy the skipping.  He recommended taking the switch to BS Player and changing the following settings. 

Settings > Preferences > Playback Preferences > Video decoding options (HW mode) > Make sure "Drop frames if decoder can't keep up" is unchecked

Settings > Preferences > Playback Preferences > Decoding mode > System decoding mode (system player)

Settings > Preferences > Playback Preferences > Codecs played in HW mode > Check ALL codec boxes

Settings > Preferences > Network/Streaming > Network buffer size > Large

Settings > Preferences > General Preferences > Check "High performance WIFI mode"

Settings > Preferences > Other > Clear cache AND Clear history AND Clean database

Reboot and test for a difference....

I seem to have a mild improvement...
Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: matt on January 19, 2013, 08:14:07 PM
He's added a few since my response. Drop frames should be checked, otherwise stutters keeping up.
I've seen little difference with buffer sizes other than long loads. Just moves the skips later on.
Also h/w decode works best for me. I'm guessing system is android os decode, s/w is bsplayer decode, h/w is tegra3 decode.
Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: bjs229 on January 19, 2013, 10:14:21 PM
Thanks Loocid  and Matt. I use BS and it's been working pretty well for me since I have gotten Fios.  I tried the drop frames when things were bad and didn't notice a difference. I was using Clear 4g or tethering to my 3g cell at my old spot but I have issues at the new house.  CDMA network doesn't work too well on my property. That is a recipe for disaster when trying to run Tvportal.

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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: bjs229 on January 19, 2013, 10:55:26 PM
Had to open my big mouth.  Lol. Stuttering now.  Changing settings as we speak.
Bluetooth. Toggle on off helps.
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Title: Re: TV Portal
Post by: Bigtroutz on January 20, 2013, 03:53:03 AM
if performance continues to be poor, you can try a N7 direct wire LAN connection with an OTG adapter and ethernet adapter.  This inexpensive one is known to work without any mods or rooting required - just plug it in (everything else connected prior to microUSb connect as usual).  I get about 10 times the speed over wired vs WiFi myself and never see any stutter on non-1080 HD streams and rarely with those on the LAN.

http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Ethernet-Network-Adapter-AX88772/dp/B00484IEJS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343090665&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Ethernet-Network-Adapter-AX88772/dp/B00484IEJS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343090665&sr=8-1)