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Title: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on January 31, 2013, 11:41:35 PM
I've tried the stock Chrome, and Dolphin browser but same problem in each. If I switch to doing something else and come back, all of my tabs have to be reloaded and it takes quite a while. Even using the back button when out of range of Wi-Fi refuses to load the page from cache...

On a related note, what is the fastest browser? I've heard Opera is but it wasn't any faster than the others in my testing. It is pretty sad that a Wi-Fi of 2MB/s and 1.3ghz quadcore has such a slow time loading webpages.... That is probably the root of the issue honestly, if it wasn't so slow in the first place I wouldn't care about the lack of caching.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: matt on February 01, 2013, 12:13:09 AM
Uc browser seems pretty fast. I have 5mbs d/l .  That's megabit(mb) not megabyte(MB) actually baud because of added error correction. Not instantaeous but ok. Haven't tried lightning browser yet, just need to get used to whatever I pick.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on February 01, 2013, 12:33:46 AM
Uc browser seems pretty fast. I have 5mbs d/l .  That's megabit(mb) not megabyte(MB) actually baud because of added error correction. Not instantaeous but ok. Haven't tried lightning browser yet, just need to get used to whatever I pick.

Thanks I will try UC and Lightning. I'm in Keller btw.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: matt on February 01, 2013, 10:08:06 AM
Well, howdy to yer post!  There's not a lot of good choices for isp in our area. I'm on the uverse elite plan, but the promo deal just ran out. Cable, meh. 3g-4g needs line of sight to antenna, then they throttle. 2mbs is a bit slow, 5 adequate for streaming video, I'd like 12. Don't know why at&t bothered to run fiber optic to my house anyway.

Another option to speed up page loads would be an ad blocker.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on February 01, 2013, 01:15:09 PM
No complaints on isp here. Verizon fios, 50mb down, 25 up. 5ms ping to both Dallas and Fort Worth. I'm surprised they haven't throttled me yet. Last month I uploaded over 300 hours of 1080p video at twitch.Tv/levolent

What 3g/4g have you tried? I hear Verizon has the best network for data too. I believe it's like $100 and up though so out of my budget but I've been thinking of getting a Clear 4g hotspot for $40/month.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: matt on February 01, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
Had a neighbor who tried 3g with a dongle for the computer. No line of sight to a tower. Worked a bit for a while, then they throttled his bandwidth. Netzero has a portable 4g hotspot, I'd like to try. Need more info.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on February 01, 2013, 04:26:34 PM
Oh wow if that still comes with a year of free service that is totally worth it. Would be like $380 savings over Clear for a year. http://www.laptopmag.com/review/wi-fi/netzero-4g-hotspot.aspx (http://www.laptopmag.com/review/wi-fi/netzero-4g-hotspot.aspx)

What I really need to do is finally break down and root/tether my 4g Huawei M920 but the 10 step guide is sketchy as heck and I'm lazy.... I guess when it comes down to me actually plunking down a Benjamin on that Netzero thing I'll give it a go first.

BTW if your net is really that bad consider getting 2 or 3 lines. It's pretty easy to bridge them together in Windows.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: bjs229 on February 01, 2013, 09:49:40 PM
I have Clear. $59 a month unlimited.

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Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: matt on February 01, 2013, 10:37:00 PM
I think they just made it illegal to root phones. Thems with the money writes the laws. It's grandfathered, so if you do root say ya did it before 2/1/13. I think they don't want their subsidized phones switched to another provider.
The netzero is too limited for me, I use easily 2GB a week. Guess I'll keep uverse awhile, 45$ a month 250GB cap.
Don't trust the unlimited mobile plans, they throttle the speed back after a certain amount of data. Always give the customer something to complain about, chance to upsell. "Oh, you want unlimited AND fastest speed, that's our super duper really unlimited plan pro."

So try speedtest, and see if you get what was promised.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: JayJ on February 01, 2013, 11:09:50 PM
It's not rooting, bootloader unlocking or any other type of jailbreaking that's illegal. It's SIM unlocking that's been made illegal...

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/thank-you-ctia-for-setting-the-us-cell-phone-market-back-10-years/

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Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: matt on February 01, 2013, 11:13:48 PM
You're right, I was about to edit my mistake, now stet. Although rooting to enable tethering might be iffy if the provider offers a tethering plan.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: JayJ on February 01, 2013, 11:27:10 PM
Although I'm non US, from what I've read rooting to enable Wi-Fi tethering has always been iffy...

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Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: bjs229 on February 02, 2013, 12:26:58 AM
Puffin browser is fast and has Flash built in.

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Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: matt on February 02, 2013, 08:12:48 AM
I'll have to try puffin, thx. Trying to load clbattery.com -needs flash.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on February 02, 2013, 09:05:54 PM
Tried Puffin and its better than stock or dolphin but the flash video isnt the best quality and smoothness. Plus the flash being only a 2 week trial is a big turnoff for me.

Been using Sleipnir and I love it so far! Apparently the Japanese have been using it for years.

Caching still not so great especially when using back button.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: bjs229 on February 05, 2013, 08:17:41 PM
Nothing personal but you seem very difficult to please. I understand we all want what we want. Do you not believe in paying for an app when the developers have done a good job? Why is a trial a turnoff?  That's what a trial is.. if it's good buy it. If you don't like the app that's a different ballgame.

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Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on February 05, 2013, 08:58:20 PM
Nothing personal but you seem very difficult to please. I understand we all want what we want. Do you not believe in paying for an app when the developers have done a good job? Why is a trial a turnoff?  That's what a trial is.. if it's good buy it. If you don't like the app that's a different ballgame.

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Nothing personal, but your fluff post doesnt contribute to the OP in any way.

I've since uninstalled Puffin since its flash trial was inferior to Sleipnir's non-trial flash. I am not above using trials, I love this Swiftkey 3 trial so far and will likely buy it when it is over. (although still looking a way to add swype functions)

I am still having the same problem from the OP so if anyone knows how to make cache work for web browsing I'd love to hear it. I shouldnt be forced to reload a page when hitting the back button. Static pages shouldnt try to refresh when switching focus back to that browser or back to that tab.

A slightly related issue that would speed up overall efficiency of my browsing if fixed is tabs not continuing to load when not in focus or after switching to another active browser. For devices that arent so snappy at fetching web data it is nice to be able to request a page then switch to another tab or browser and work on something else while it continues in the background.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: bjs229 on February 05, 2013, 09:28:22 PM
Waving the white flag.

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Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on February 05, 2013, 09:31:06 PM
Waving the white flag.

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Haha I didnt even notice you are a mod, oops!

Waiving the /bowdown flag.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: bjs229 on February 05, 2013, 09:40:22 PM
It's ok bro. I didn't mean anything as far as being personal. We all try and help each other here. It's a cool forum here.  I have read thru your threads here and at other spots and you seem to be very specific with your needs. No harm no foul. The way I look at it, being here is bout what we want to learn and helping each other. I hope that we can figure out some of these needs and issues because so far they have been tough to remedy.
I'm gonna check out Sleipnir. :D

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Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: matt on February 05, 2013, 09:41:56 PM
I hear ya. It may be because tablets have different ram and apps have to work on 256mb as well as 1g. Not much ram to multitask after operating system overhead + market services.

When using chrome, I long press a link to open a page in a new tab. When I go between tabs they don't reload. And the tabs I haven't opened yet load in the background.

When I go back in Internet Explorer on the winbox, it redownloads the pages as well. Maybe there needs to be a cache buffer setting.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on February 05, 2013, 09:51:23 PM
I hear ya. It may be because tablets have different ram and apps have to work on 256mb as well as 1g. Not much ram to multitask after operating system overhead + market services.

When using chrome, I long press a link to open a page in a new tab. When I go between tabs they don't reload. And the tabs I haven't opened yet load in the background.

When I go back in Internet Explorer on the winbox, it redownloads the pages as well. Maybe there needs to be a cache buffer setting.
Maybe there's app that will let you whitelist some apps to be considered fully active and focused even when they are in background? This would also be useful for listening to youtube videos without having to actually watch the video in full focus. Then I could uninstall PXSTAR which is kinda crap code, but works somewhat. (you can't even paste a URL there you have to search the video again)
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: bjs229 on February 05, 2013, 09:59:01 PM
if I remember there was a bug with puffin that allowed you to back out or use another tab and YouTube would play in the  background.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: bjs229 on February 05, 2013, 10:04:36 PM
The lightning browser does it too. I am browsing and YouTube is playing in the backround. Not sure if that is what  you want

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Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on February 05, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
if iI remember there was a bug with puffin that allowed you to back out or use another tab and YouTube would play in the  background.

Thats not a bug thats a feature! ;P Puffin flash quality isnt as good as Sleipnir. Also the gesture system is pretty amazing. Did I mention the Japanese have been using it for years? Havent checked out lightning yet.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: matt on February 05, 2013, 10:08:26 PM
There is a video player called wondershare with a built in browser to use youtube or hulu. Even flash vids will play, at least on hulu.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: bjs229 on February 05, 2013, 10:09:57 PM
I didn't know it was a feature but it works!  Lightning seems cool but settings don't work after the new update. It is very fast. Fast enough to maybe remedy your cache issue.

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Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on February 05, 2013, 10:14:55 PM
Back button forcing a reload and totaly wiping the current page if you happen to be out of wifi range is a major bug imo and no faster browser is going to fix this, but thanks. I will def check it out if I get tired of Sleipnir.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: matt on February 05, 2013, 10:31:41 PM
Are you looking for a way to save .flv videos to the tablet? I don't think any stream will continue to work when wifi drops.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on February 05, 2013, 10:41:27 PM
I don't think any stream will continue to work when wifi drops.

Of course not lol... I think maybe you were mixing up 2 different issues I brought up. The only time I mentioned dropped wifi is when you hit the back button. Doesnt mean I was referring to watching a video stream. Hitting the back button should show the cached copy of the page just like it does on my pc, not forcing a refresh and then clearing the entire page of content to display a network error.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: matt on February 05, 2013, 10:59:24 PM
Ah, I was being dense. Just ran thru a bunch of sites on the pc, turned off the wifi, and started hitting the back button. Never had a reason to do that before. Don't know why I bothered.

So what exactly do you want, to store web sites for viewing when out of wifi range, or just faster page loads of previously viewed content? I'm missing the point. Illuminate.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on February 05, 2013, 11:06:52 PM
Ah, I was being dense. Just ran thru a bunch of sites on the pc, turned off the wifi, and started hitting the back button. Never had a reason to do that before. Don't know why I bothered.

So what exactly do you want, to store web sites for viewing when out of wifi range, or just faster page loads of previously viewed content? I'm missing the point. Illuminate.

I just want efficiency. If youre going to hit the back button of course you just want to go where you were previously. Theres absoluletly no reason to refetch it from the web by default. If you need a more current version of the page you can simply hit refresh.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: matt on February 05, 2013, 11:14:42 PM
Maybe it's just a vast conspiracy to expose you to as much advertising as possible. Or a bug. Mebbe 4.2.2 will fix it, but I quit holding my breath due to oxygen starvation.
Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: JayJ on February 06, 2013, 05:29:33 AM
xScope Pro caches web pages...

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Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: bjs229 on February 06, 2013, 06:42:08 AM
Hitting the back or forward button with Lightning shows the page with WiFi disconnected.

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Title: Re: Caching not working
Post by: levolent on February 07, 2013, 02:11:06 PM
Thanks I'll check out lightning then.  I've also heard its one of the fastest.