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Nexus 7 General Forums => The Lounge: Off Topic Forum => Topic started by: fxsarge on March 07, 2013, 07:16:55 PM
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Is anyone here experienced in building PCs? I'll take any help I can get. I have a list of parts I want to buy.
Monitor
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-T232HL-bmidz-23-Inch-Display/dp/B00966IW72/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I3A1TNI2RNIWS0 (http://www.amazon.com/Acer-T232HL-bmidz-23-Inch-Display/dp/B00966IW72/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I3A1TNI2RNIWS0)
Case
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-Computer-RC-942-KKN1/dp/B003S68Q0Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I23N5R67CVDUP1 (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-Computer-RC-942-KKN1/dp/B003S68Q0Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I23N5R67CVDUP1)
OS
http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Professional-System-Builder-64-Bit/dp/B0094NXBZ0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I2S40RV6N4I20Q (http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Professional-System-Builder-64-Bit/dp/B0094NXBZ0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I2S40RV6N4I20Q)
Bluray Optical Drive
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-DVD-ROM-Internal-Blu-Ray-BC-12B1ST/dp/B004SUO068/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I2293F5AXKH83S (http://www.amazon.com/Asus-DVD-ROM-Internal-Blu-Ray-BC-12B1ST/dp/B004SUO068/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I2293F5AXKH83S)
SSD
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-SATAIII-2-5-Inch-MZ-7TD500BW/dp/B009NHAF3I/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I20UFIEWRUG79C (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-SATAIII-2-5-Inch-MZ-7TD500BW/dp/B009NHAF3I/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I20UFIEWRUG79C)
Power Supply
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Enthusiast-Series-Bronze-TX750/dp/B004MYFODI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I1R94IWFW1N4IP (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Enthusiast-Series-Bronze-TX750/dp/B004MYFODI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I1R94IWFW1N4IP)
Graphics Card
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SUPERCLOCKED-Graphics-02G-P4-2662-KR/dp/B00966IREK/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I2L69X7NK6Y5D3 (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SUPERCLOCKED-Graphics-02G-P4-2662-KR/dp/B00966IREK/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I2L69X7NK6Y5D3)
Mother Board
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-SABERTOOTH-Z77-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B007RIFKUS/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I3NIQWB6RW055C (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-SABERTOOTH-Z77-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B007RIFKUS/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I3NIQWB6RW055C)
CPU
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-3770K-Quad-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B007SZ0EOW/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=IK4IB5444YC7E (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-3770K-Quad-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B007SZ0EOW/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=IK4IB5444YC7E)
RAM
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory-CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10/dp/B006EWUO22/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I36SAIOPBN8XWD (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory-CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10/dp/B006EWUO22/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1V6Q5G2SM2F59&coliid=I36SAIOPBN8XWD)
Is that all I need? Is this stuff even compatible with each other?
All the links are to amazon. I'm at about $2500
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Are you going with on board sound or a sound card?
Take a look at Microcenter. They usually have great deals if you are buying motherboard and cpu together. Usually lower than New Egg Amazon.. Etc..
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Are you going with on board sound or a sound card?
Take a look at Microcenter. They usually have great deals if you are buying motherboard and cpu together. Usually lower than New Egg Amazon.. Etc..
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I have no idea about sound. I guess sound card. Is there a slot for one of those?
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PCI or PCI express connection slot . If you are real serious about sound and are possibly going to use it for home theater a sound card is probably a smart idea. You can always add one later as long as your MOBO has on board sound. Looks like you are putting down some serious coin, I wouldn't skimp on the audio.
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PCI or PCI express connection slot . If you are real serious about sound and are possibly going to use it for home theater a sound card is probably a smart idea. You can always add one later as long as your MOBO has on board sound. Looks like you are putting down some serious coin, I wouldn't skimp on the audio.
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I like what your thinking because I would hook this up to my surround sound system which is pretty nice. This thing is getting expensive lol. Am I correct in thinking this will be cheaper and better than buying a pre made one?
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Kind of hard to tell. The monitor doesn't tell you what input connectors it has. DVI? HDMI? VGA? The graphics card doesn't tell you what resolution it outputs. 1920 X 1080 @ 60 Hz? 1080p? Your guess is as good as mine on whether they're going to work together.
How does the Corsair power supply compare to the top-of-the-line Thermaltake 750 watt PS?
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There are some great deals out there on already built pc's. You gotta look around.
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Kind of hard to tell. The monitor doesn't tell you what input connectors it has. DVI? HDMI? VGA? The graphics card doesn't tell you what resolution it outputs. 1920 X 1080 @ 60 Hz? 1080p? Your guess is as good as mine on whether they're going to work together.
How does the Corsair power supply compare to the top-of-the-line Thermaltake 750 watt PS?
Lol you mean I can't just throw all this crap together and expect it to work?
The monitor does 1080p with a 1920x1080 res. Not sure about the Hz. It has USB, HDMI, and VGA I believe.
The graphics card I just picked based on the fact that its nVidias and seems to be enough for gaming. I've always seen them as being good for gaming.
Now power supplies I don't know much about. I've heard of corsair before but that was the only brand I was recognizing. Would you recommend thermaltake over them then?
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These are the current maximumpc favorites:
http://www.maximumpc.com/best-of-the-best (http://www.maximumpc.com/best-of-the-best)
If I were buying all new parts, instead of upgrading the mb/cpu/mem, I'd rather get a prebuilt with warranty. The vendors get better deals on parts so it should be about the same cost.
As far as what to build, depends on your uses. Do you want a power sipping quiet htpc or a watercooled overclocked screaming fast dual graphic card multimonitor gaming rig or a 6 core video editing machine?
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That's an awesome link. Where do you advise buying pre built ones?
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This is where I shop. I am lucky to have a store 10 minutes from me. Their prices are usually very competitive and they have great sales. www.microcenter.com
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You will want to add a fan or liquid cooler for your CPU. If you decide to build your own.
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Here's a pretty good website that helps you select what parts you need: http://pcpartpicker.com/ (http://pcpartpicker.com/). They don't actually sell anything but will show the prices for the selected items at different websites where you can buy the parts. It's handy because once you select the processor you want, it only shows you compatible motherboards, RAM, etc... Same with other components.
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I once bought a PC kit from Fry's Computers, a CA superstore.
First, I couldn't get it to work. I finally had to bring the motherboard back to the store. The returns guy plugged it in to test it, and it worked. I noticed he plugged in a 4 prong connector I''d never noticed, so I asked him what it was. Video power supply, he said. My old power supply was from an older generation, and didn't have such a plug. No wonder I never saw anything on the monitor. That's when I learned Thermaltake's sterling reputation among power supplies. Here's a Corsair v. Thermaltake discussion. (http://www.overclock.net/t/554279/corsair-vs-thermaltake-stable-power/30) It looks like you can't go wrong with either.
Despite my new Thermaltake PS, my completed computer kept dying. I contacted the motherboard company's tech support, and after a long string of emails with an engineer, and lots of diagnostic testing on my part, the engineer declared the moherboard couldn't handle the power demands of the CPU that Frys had bundled in the package. I got Fry's to swap for a compatible motherboard. Caveat emptor.
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Here's a pretty good website that helps you select what parts you need: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/[/url] ([url]http://pcpartpicker.com/[/url]). They don't actually sell anything but will show the prices for the selected items at different websites where you can buy the parts. It's handy because once you select the processor you want, it only shows you compatible motherboards, RAM, etc... Same with other components.
Another great link. Thank you very much for all the help guys.
Bj I have a micro center very close to me as well and am very familiar with them and to be honest they will never get another dime out of me. They are way over priced and their entire staff was terrible. Yours may be better but I won't go there again.
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I love building PCs. What's your primary function on the computer? Do you have a preference for any manufacturer? I see that you picked out an Intel based system. Any reason why? I guess just because I'm an AMD guy. I am upgrading my dad's Intel pc right now. He has an "old" eMachine. Unfortunately when you go with one of the barebone kits or a ready to go pc, you might save a few bucks, but lose out on some crucial numbers in the specs.
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By the way, I highly recommend newegg.com. guaranteed to be cheaper. With great customer service. Excellent shipping...
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A lot of people have talked about newegg.com so I will check them out.
My goal of the PC is to have something much more productive than a laptop. I want to be a let to play games, have a big touch screen monitor, possibly play around with Photoshop and things, and also hook it up to my 50" flat screen for media. I would like to replace my PS3 with it.
And the reason for Intel is that they've always seemed to be of the highest quality. My Sony laptop is an amd and thats all I've ever know. I've had professor at school swear by Intel and he knows a lot about tech.
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I assume anything on sale is flawed or soon to be updated. Bought a mb/cpu combo at Fry's long ago and after replacing the ps multiple times discovered a recall due to bad capacitors.
IF you can wait, look for the new haswell chipsets. New socket, better upgrade potential. For my purposes I'd be happy with a gaming ultrabook, after two years when I next upgrade, relegate it to htpc duty. I get cut on the bloody edge.
Maximumpc has pc builds periodically for budget, moderate, and insane levels. Also deals on parts and systems, I check the main page daily.
Very few of the sales guys at electronic stores are very knowledgeable, or they would have better jobs!
Carpe diem, caveat emptor, soup du jour, cogito ergo sum. Imho. Semper fideles.
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Intel does put out some good quality products. Unfortunately, you will pay for it. You can get the same performance out of an AMD system at about a third of the cost. They are going to be just as reliable as any Intel product. The differerence is in pushing the envelope. Intel has a slight edge on the technology. So unless you are performing atom splitting calculations or running the graphics server for a gaming LAN, AMD can keep up. Personally, I found AMD to be a bit more like android with the open customization. I can even overclock my graphics card and tune my pc fans right from the supplied user interface. I can attach certain application windows to a connected tv or monitor.
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This looks interesting.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/07/asus-announces-the-transformer-aio-p1801-the-windows-8android-desktoptablet-hybrid-will-arrive-april-12th-for-1299/ (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/07/asus-announces-the-transformer-aio-p1801-the-windows-8android-desktoptablet-hybrid-will-arrive-april-12th-for-1299/)
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Heres an example
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113281 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113281)
Very similar specs on this CPU and the one you selected. They both include the GPU (video processing). The AMD chip goes for a third of the price. You will save on a compatible motherboard too.
It is also possible to eliminate the need for a seperate discrete graphics card. Unless you are doing intense gaming, the incorporated GPU will handle Blu-ray's and light gaming. You could throw the extra dough that you would be spending on a graphics card into a slightly more powerful processor. This is the case with both Intel and AMD cpu's.
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Heres my two cents on memory. I like to fill up all available slots for best performance. Memory is rated at speed and timing. In this case lets assume were speaking of DDR3 1600Mhz. If your motherboard has a capacity of 32GB, I would purchase 4 x 8GB modules at the lowest possible timing. Heres the thing, 4GB modules typically have lower timings than than 8GB modules. So if you only plan on buying 16GB of memory, go with 4 X 4GB. This will typically give you better performance than 2 X 8GB with the same DDR3 1600. The factor that comes in here is if you want to upgrade the memory, you have to purchase all new modules. I only leave slots empty if I plan on upgrading in the near future.
Now on hard drives, SSD is the way to go, but only for your operating system. The daily use of writes to a SSD will eventually cause it to fail. If it does fail, your data is practically irrecoverble. This is why people use an SSD for the OS and a traditional hard disk for everything else. You will get the benefiits of a quick response, and a large ammount of safe storage. Now larger a SSD will get better performance, but unless you are running massive games from them, you wont notice a difference, especially coming from a hard disk OS to begin with.