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Title: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: Babyfacemagee on July 05, 2012, 07:07:00 AM
Do you plan on rooting your Nexus 7? Do you plan on sticking with the 'out of the box' OS with no changes?  Perhaps you're curious about rooting but just don't know enough about it or feel confident or 'tech savvy' enough to do it yourself?  Let us know your thoughts.  We're curious what percentage of forum members plan on rooting compared to those that will stick with the stock Nexus 7 as it comes from the factory.
Title: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: toondw on July 05, 2012, 07:50:47 AM
Stock! :)
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: halibaitor on July 05, 2012, 08:05:26 AM
Since rooting voids the warranty, I plan on waiting for a bit to make sure nothing is wrong with the tablet.

After that, the answer is 100% YES !!!!!
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: radiocycle on July 05, 2012, 08:29:06 AM
Well, still not sure what advantage there is in 'rooting'.  I'd have to have a step-by-step guide, for sure.  I've seen some examples of rooting instructions and they seemed very cryptic indeed.  But if I saw the advantage I'd be tempted to give it a go....

r
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: ibm650 on July 05, 2012, 09:35:14 AM
To allow use of usb storage, since Google does not believe in sd
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: halibaitor on July 05, 2012, 12:36:58 PM
To allow use of usb storage, since Google does not believe in sd

+1
What he said...   8)
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: S.Prime on July 05, 2012, 05:01:42 PM
If I commit on buying a Nexus 7, the first exploit that is available will find my tablet rooted. Yes it voids your warranty, but you seek a solution that allows rooting to be removed and if your device fails and cannot boot your root is no longer discoverable.

Edit:

I decided on the 16 gig version and pre-ordered mine.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: samalex on July 09, 2012, 03:13:51 PM
Interesting results...  The fear of bricking my devices is what keeps me away from rooting them, so I'll probably keep the N7 stock for the most part.  Besides from what I see most people root their devices to use the stock version of Android, which this will have outta the gate, so what advantage is there in rooting it?

Now if HDMI support can be added through the docking pins that may be a reason to root...  That's the one feature the N7 lacks that I really wish they had added.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: levesque on July 17, 2012, 02:28:31 PM
I've rooted a device before, but won't root my Nexus 7 unless I have to. Also, I can't root a tablet I don't have yet.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: Lustfuljayb on July 29, 2012, 03:21:05 PM
I would love to root,but I can't just yet. I'm running windows 8,consumers eval. edition. The one click root doesn't work. I also have a different build JR 003D,so I guess it may be a few months.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: S.Prime on July 29, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
Interesting, I will plug my N7 into my Windows 8 evaluation system and see if it can be rooted by the manual method.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: frank on July 29, 2012, 07:31:33 PM
I also have a different build JR 003D
Me too.  Still worked fine just selecting 003C on the toolkit.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: techdad3 on July 30, 2012, 06:11:25 PM
Just might do this once someone with more experience than myself will offer details, would like to take advantage of the mini-usb port options.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: S.Prime on July 30, 2012, 08:08:13 PM
We have a step by step guide to rooting, if you want an easy route to rooting.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: JayJ on July 30, 2012, 09:39:29 PM
I'm a long time Android user, well my N7 that I've had for nearly a week is my third Android device.

My first was Sony Ericsson's first foray into Android, the Xperia X10i and you had to be rooted for it to even work properly, well at least to undo the major lag SE's Rachel UI caused the system.

My Galaxy S2 is my current Android phone is also rooted, after experiencing root privileges I couldn't live without them.
Also running a custom ROM on my SGS2, Pure AOKP v3.0 Milestone 6.
As great as the SGS2 is, Samsung's awful Gingerbread theming of ICS is what convinced me to to flash custom ROM's on my SGS2.
For those that haven't used custom ROM's, the likes of AOSP ROM's like Cyanogen Mod and AOKP ROM's make a great deal of difference to the stock AOSP Google ROM's with tweaks and mods making the users experience more refined and enhanced.

After all this I was adiment I wasn't going to root my N7. With a rooted phone and missing the ability to use certain apps that I wanted to use but which root prevented, I decided I wasn't going to root my N7.
I think I lasted 2 days, the two main apps (Sky Go and Barclays banking) I wanted to use aren't atm compatible with the N7 and after installing a few games like NOVA 3, ME Infiltrator & Deadspace and nearly filling the N7's internal memory with game data I decided to to root so I could use Chaifires StickMount.

The rest as they say is history. lol
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: birdastrompgman on July 30, 2012, 10:02:47 PM
I'm planning on rooting mine next week, primarily to get sd storage.
Title: Re: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: JanqEs on July 31, 2012, 01:12:34 PM
I'm planning on rooting mine next week, primarily to get sd storage.

I know this is dumb. But what it meant by having sd storage: is it sdcard? Or usage of external storage?
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: radiocycle on July 31, 2012, 03:22:30 PM
You got it... storage on an sd card.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: JanqEs on August 02, 2012, 12:49:59 AM
Kewlll. Might try rooting later when i need more space. =)
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: birdastrompgman on August 02, 2012, 08:37:09 AM
I rooted mine on Tuesday. It was pretty easy.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: radiocycle on August 02, 2012, 10:38:59 AM
I rooted mine on Tuesday. It was pretty easy.

Tell me this bman; what have you done with your tab now that you couldn't have done before you rooted it?? No pressure, just curious...  I'm considering it myself.

radio
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: birdastrompgman on August 02, 2012, 10:53:13 AM
I haven't done a single thing with my rooted nexus 7 , other then look at directories above the sdcard level,  and did a complete system and data backup.  When my USB-otg. Cable arrives, I'll move my apps data to a real SD card.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: radiocycle on August 02, 2012, 11:25:31 AM
Cool, OK.  I've got one of those cables coming too.  Will be interesting...

r
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: angst on August 05, 2012, 11:57:16 PM
These devices are meant to be rooted, dont get me wrong but stock is OK, but to use the limited space fully the best way is to root.

I have changed many of the default apps for the ones I want in system. Also being able to make nand backups is a plus and also a better Kernel to overclock and attach more devices with an OTG cable.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: RDJW on August 07, 2012, 07:06:18 PM
I rooted mine last weekend and it's great. I am so glad I did, although I admit to some trepidation going into it. Since I hadn't installed much of anything, I did not have much to rebuild - mostly just my email settings.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: S.Prime on August 07, 2012, 07:55:50 PM
@ RDJW

Thanks for sharing your rooting experience. Yes, it is a bit scary rooting your first device, but once you experience a rooted Android device, you never want to go back.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: arborij on October 01, 2012, 05:19:21 PM
To late to think, I barely took it off the charger before I rooted.  Heck, it still had the screen protector on it, and I didn't even log in to it before it was done.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: jpcalhoun on October 08, 2012, 06:28:51 AM
I rooted mine on Tuesday. It was pretty easy.

Tell me this bman; what have you done with your tab now that you couldn't have done before you rooted it?? No pressure, just curious...  I'm considering it myself.

radio
I rooted mine several weeks ago primarily to take advantage of several apps that require root:
--Titanium Backup Pro to have the ability to freeze apps that I don't want to start on boot
--SD Maid - the best app to monitor and control the entire file system on the Nexus, not just the files available for view without root.  This is important to me since have limited storage space without adding additional hardware).  You'd be amazed of how much "crap" is kept in files you cannot see unless you're rooted.
--Root enables you to take advantage of all the capabilities/functions of Apex...not important unless you're using the Apex launcher...which is an outstanding launcher...better than stock in my opinion.
--Root allows you to install ROM Manager which in turn allows you to get into Recovery.  So, if you want to flash ROMs, themes, fonts etc you can do it.  It also enables you to create a backup of your ROM be it stock or custom.  As far as I can tell, the only way to get to Recovery is through ROM Manager...you can't do it any other way...it is a glitch on the Nexus 7.
--There are a few other apps that require root that many use to  control CPU speeds, extend battery life, change icons, theme, tether, hotspot etc.
The Google Nexus Toolkit available on this forum is an excellent tool to load the necessary drivers on your computer, unlock the bootloader, root your Nexus, create a restore to stock backup etc.  If you decide to root I'd recommend using this toolkit...it is excellent and takes the guess work out of the process.  I'm not a Android guru so I needed something that was idiot proof, lol.
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Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: birdastrompgman on October 08, 2012, 09:26:13 AM
I've found a lot of uses for my rooted device. I'm storing 12gb of data on an external usb flash drive. 5gb is nandroid backups. 2.5gb are data storage for my astronomy & birding programs, accessed directly from the flash drive.. There is a. 2.5gb movie file.

So,  I'm using 12gb & still have 14gb free on the flash drive. I have about 90 applications loaded, & 4.5gb of my original 8gb storage space still available - not bad for buying the cheap 8gb Nexus 7. Rooting was free, the otg cable was $5, & $20 for the 32gb flash drive - $225 for a 40gb Nexus 7.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: JayJ on October 08, 2012, 09:30:37 AM
@jpcalhoun

Nice reply there mate, you've cover some important aspects to rooting. I use most of those apps functions you've listed but I don't use ROM Manager, I have TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project) Recovery on my Nexus 7 and use Goo Manager to boot to recovery or I stuff when running stock.
I'm running CyanogenMod 10 atm and the power menu that appears when you long press the power button includes a reboot option, this option is contained in most custom ROM's.
You can also use apps like Extended Controls which has a reboot widget and there are others available on Google Play.
Just to add to your paragraph about apps that allow overclocking, undervolting etc, this can only be done with a relevant kernel.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: radiocycle on October 08, 2012, 11:33:15 AM
I rooted mine on Tuesday. It was pretty easy.

Tell me this bman; what have you done with your tab now that you couldn't have done before you rooted it?? No pressure, just curious...  I'm considering it myself.

radio
I rooted mine several weeks ago primarily to take advantage of several apps that require root:
--Titanium Backup Pro to have the ability to freeze apps that I don't want to start on boot
--SD Maid - the best app to monitor and control the entire file system on the Nexus, not just the files available for view without root.  This is important to me since have limited storage space without adding additional hardware).  You'd be amazed of how much "crap" is kept in files you cannot see unless you're rooted.
--Root enables you to take advantage of all the capabilities/functions of Apex...not important unless you're using the Apex launcher...which is an outstanding launcher...better than stock in my opinion.
--Root allows you to install ROM Manager which in turn allows you to get into Recovery.  So, if you want to flash ROMs, themes, fonts etc you can do it.  It also enables you to create a backup of your ROM be it stock or custom.  As far as I can tell, the only way to get to Recovery is through ROM Manager...you can't do it any other way...it is a glitch on the Nexus 7.
--There are a few other apps that require root that many use to  control CPU speeds, extend battery life, change icons, theme, tether, hotspot etc.
The Google Nexus Toolkit available on this forum is an excellent tool to load the necessary drivers on your computer, unlock the bootloader, root your Nexus, create a restore to stock backup etc.  If you decide to root I'd recommend using this toolkit...it is excellent and takes the guess work out of the process.  I'm not a Android guru so I needed something that was idiot proof, lol.
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Wow, thanks jpcalhoun!  I gave ya a big thumbs up on that one... I've had my N7 rooted for a while now but still didn't hve some of those apps you mentioned.  I've since rectified that situation though.....

radio
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: jpcalhoun on October 09, 2012, 07:40:01 AM
Let me add one more app that is almost a must for any user who wants to root their Nexus 7.  ROM Toolbox is amazing.  This one app gives the rooted user the ability to flash, backup, change fonts, load ROMs, etc all in one app.  Highly recommend any rooted user to download this free app and check it out.  It is truely a "Tool Box" for your Nexus 7.
Title: Re: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: lrm537 on October 09, 2012, 09:42:51 AM
Let me add one more app that is almost a must for any user who wants to root their Nexus 7.  ROM Toolbox is amazing.  This one app gives the rooted user the ability to flash, backup, change fonts, load ROMs, etc all in one app.  Highly recommend any rooted user to download this free app and check it out.  It is truely a "Tool Box" for your Nexus 7.

I'll second that. An amazing app that's currently being improved with regular updates. This one app can replace several apps that are useful in the root & ROM department.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: loociddreemr on October 09, 2012, 09:50:03 AM
I downloaded the root toolkit before my N7 hit my doorstep! I am thinking of returning it though, since I am the 30 day return period of the retailers policy.  Is the method of returning the firmware to stock, unrooting, and relocking the bootloader  unrecognizable from a completely unmodified device?
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: JayJ on October 09, 2012, 10:51:34 AM
I've heard very negative things about ROM Toolbox duo haven't tried it.

And yes loocidremr, flashing the stock grouper image and relocking the bootloader will be like it's never been touched.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: optimalbeast on October 17, 2012, 07:56:26 AM
Never ceases to amaze me that people buy a Nexus device for the vanilla android and interface, only to root it for Apex or another similar launcher....

In get rooting for some of the tools such as USB, but I've got tons of cloud storage on Google Drive (5GB) and SkyDrive(25GB).  All my music and movies are stored on Google Play, and all my photos are stored on Google+..... 

I have the 8GB Nexus 7.  If I don't want to use a new launcher and have no need for more storage.... is there a reason for me to root? Not being sarcastic ... just trying to figure out if there is maybe something  I am missing out in?
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: bjs229 on October 17, 2012, 10:52:19 AM
I rooted mainly because there was no way to store and play my 30 gb Karaoke collection. Cloud storage is great but has its limitations . MAINLY, you need wifi and if you use big amounts of space its not cheap after the free period runs out. The developer of Media Importer made it clear that there wasn't a way to use his app to play mp3+G files or designate a program to open them. He suggested rooting.
Rooting also gives you control of the file system. Allows for freezing of bloatware. I kept the vanilla launcher, haven't rommed out my Nexus. I happen to like it the way I have been able to set it up. I wouldn't have been able to do that without rooting.
Title: Re: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: JayJ on October 17, 2012, 05:28:39 PM
Never ceases to amaze me that people buy a Nexus device for the vanilla android and interface, only to root it for Apex or another similar launcher....

In get rooting for some of the tools such as USB, but I've got tons of cloud storage on Google Drive (5GB) and SkyDrive(25GB).  All my music and movies are stored on Google Play, and all my photos are stored on Google+..... 

I have the 8GB Nexus 7.  If I don't want to use a new launcher and have no need for more storage.... is there a reason for me to root? Not being sarcastic ... just trying to figure out if there is maybe something  I am missing out in?

You clearly no very little about Android and rooting...

Stock Android is AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and most custom ROM's are based on this version of Android, no body in their right mind is going to flash an HTC Sense themed or Samsung Touchwiz themed ROM into a Nexus device. That means custom ROM's get updates before OEM ROM's and will always be ahead of the rest.
Who would root just to run Apex launcher, buy the Pro version...

USB OTG is far more universal than you give it credit, I would rather have my movies on a thumb drive than the cloud. The cloud is only useful if you have a data connection and that's okay when you have access to an unlimited broadband connection but not when your tethering to a mobile or other mobile internet connection but not everybody does.
Also with OTG you can store game data and with apps like Directory bind or with the use of scripts you can store game data on USB thumb drives and play games.
I have Dropbox (100GB+), Google Drive, Box and Skydrive but still choose to root my device.

I think your thinking of rooting as bad or scary, it's not. All your doing to getting the same administrative rights as Windows allows and that's to read and write at the / level of your device. Your taking control of your device and that's why I choose to root, my device so I want to control it not it control me.
If you don't want root privileges, that's fine, it's your device and your choice but don't criticize those that do choose to root their device!
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: arborij on October 21, 2012, 12:32:13 PM
I downloaded a ROM a drivers before the N7 was even delivered.
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: MrFound on January 09, 2013, 08:34:34 AM
i knew i shouldn't open this LOL now i'm really thinking about rooting my n7 just like i rooted my galaxy (which works great!)
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: loociddreemr on January 09, 2013, 11:18:26 AM
I have a brother that does security for Sony PlayStation network. I have an uncle with every gadget under the sun. My first experience with rooting was so that I could have android version 2.2 Froyo running on my device before they could. I root everything I get my hands on since then!

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Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: JayJ on January 09, 2013, 02:24:10 PM
i knew i shouldn't open this LOL now i'm really thinking about rooting my n7 just like i rooted my galaxy (which works great!)


Go on...you know you want to... ;D

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Title: Re: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: bjs229 on January 09, 2013, 03:35:43 PM
i knew i shouldn't open this LOL now i'm really thinking about rooting my n7 just like i rooted my galaxy (which works great!)
The worm has turned for you MrFound.

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Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: S.Prime on January 09, 2013, 07:24:52 PM
2 days max, before root. 8)

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Title: Re: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: MrFound on January 10, 2013, 02:06:16 AM
i knew i shouldn't open this LOL now i'm really thinking about rooting my n7 just like i rooted my galaxy (which works great!)
The worm has turned for you MrFound.

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Quote from: JayJ
  Go on...you know you want to...  ;D

 :o tempters  :D
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: dlantz89 on February 25, 2013, 01:14:42 PM
We have a step by step guide to rooting, if you want an easy route to rooting.


I'm new to this forum and just purchasing the 32 GB nexus 7. I am very use to Rooting Droid Razr's and running custom ROMS. But i am a little worried about this one. Could someone post a think to ROOT the nexus 7?? would be much appreciated-
Title: Re: Do You Plan On Rooting Your Nexus 7?
Post by: S.Prime on February 25, 2013, 03:41:48 PM
This is a link to the Rooting Guide

http://www.Nexus7Forum.com/index.php?topic=367.0
The Nexus7Forum.com's Step by Step Guide to Rooting The Nexus 7 Tablet

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