Thanks JayJ but understanding  Captcha phrase does not help if it is almost impossible to read the letters. I only posted my problem in hoping the web master would look at it & make it a little more easier for new people. And please don't look at me as a newbe because I have registered in many forums. I know that one of the times trying to registered in this forum it asked my what the color is & that stopped me dead in my tracks because I am colorblind so why should that keep me out. What really irked me was every time & believe when I say many I had to retype my password twice. I am benifiting now & I am sure in the future from being a member. jimjoh