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Offline ivan

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Streaming my n7 onto my tv
« on: December 10, 2012, 10:47:18 AM »
This is a two point question. But first my setup: N7, connected to a wireless router, hardwired to a patriot box office (PBO) media player, which is connected to my TV. My windows 7 computer has a shared media network folder and using the PBO , I am able to stream movies to my TV.

1. Am I able to share media from my N7 in the same way that I can network share a folder on my windows machine?

2. Now that I got my snes emulator working, I'd like to play it on my TV. Is it possible to setup a live video and audio feed to my media player? Since the N7 doesn't have HDMI out, I figure streaming is the only way.

Thanks!
« Last Edit: December 10, 2012, 10:50:08 AM by ivan »



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Re: Streaming my n7 onto my tv
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2012, 11:21:59 AM »
There's probably an app that will allow the sharing, but its not a native function. As far as streaming video out, there's no current software that allows this functionality. There's rumored hardware, another box that you need to buy, but its not readily available yet.

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Re: Streaming my n7 onto my tv
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2012, 11:54:43 AM »
My understanding is that our Nexus 7 can send, control, and receive wireless and network streams.  I am currently working on this on my own N7 for the first time so I am certainly not experienced. 

First you have the PC or N7 with a media server / connection of some type installed, let's say XBMC or Plex 

Next you can have the N7 control that media server - see for instance    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.xbmc.android.remote&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsIm9yZy54Ym1jLmFuZHJvaWQucmVtb3RlIl0. 

Next you can have the N7 receive the media as a client IF your N7 can see the server's stream and connect to it.  see for example  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexapp.android&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5wbGV4YXBwLmFuZHJvaWQiXQ..

In short, the ability you are looking for is dependent on the apps you select.  There are a crapload of them so have fun and think positive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_streaming_media_systems
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_streaming_media_systems
« Last Edit: December 10, 2012, 11:56:28 AM by Bigtroutz »

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Re: Streaming my n7 onto my tv
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2012, 12:14:14 PM »
Good ideas at work here. Now we just have to figure it how to stream a mirror of the Nexus display.

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Re: Streaming my n7 onto my tv
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2012, 08:00:23 PM »
Thanks for the replies. I was able to solve.my first question. I downloaded twonky beam, setup my n7 as a media server and accessed my media files on my media player via upnp.

Now to get my android screen on the TV.... I didn't see any obvious apps to do that. Anymore suggestions? I've seen the physical HDMI dongle and adapter from amazon, but its 80 bucks and apparently doesn't work that well. I feel like any network connected media player should be able to do it.

I can hook up my laptop to the TV's HDMI, is there anyway to stream my androids video to my laptop?

Would something like this work for connecting the n7 via HDMI:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271106933845
Do the n7s have mhl technology?
Or how about:
http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort%C2%AE-SP1002-Connect-connector-Supports/dp/B009UZBLSG/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_2  Looks like the nexus 4 works with this, how about the 7?

Also, it looks like 4.2 gave us miracast, but from what I read the N7 doesn't support it.

Ah and for a point of interest check this out: http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
I can't do it, not rooted, but it might be of interest to some.

Thanks!
« Last Edit: December 10, 2012, 09:54:51 PM by ivan »

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Re: Streaming my n7 onto my tv
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2012, 10:03:05 PM »
My understanding is that the N7 is missing internals needed for a wired HDMI connection regardless of which cable converters you try.

From what I read, it seems that the best solution is to use the N7 as the wireless or bluetooth connected remote control of a server application running on a laptop, PC, HTPC, whatever that actually does the connecting to the TV.  You may try to add wireless streaming from a server set up on your N7 but the sad fact is that your server's actual storage capacity is very limited.   At any rate, you will still need a device to pass the actual stream to the TV unless your TV has a wireless connection to your network the media server can see.

Tomorrow I get one of these to experiment with. 
http://www.amazon.com/kdLinks-HD680-Extreme-Network-Realtek/dp/B005KFHVES/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1355198529&sr=1-2&keywords=kdlinks


I will start with a XBMC server on my PC sending the stream to the Kdlinks with the N7 as the remote control. Feel free to watch someplace here for the results in a couple of days as I discover what works and what doesn't.

edit:
Apparently you need to add so much stuff to the (hard to get) Raspberry Pi that it ends up in the same price range as the linked device from earlier in this post.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2012, 10:14:04 PM by Bigtroutz »

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Re: Streaming my n7 onto my tv
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2012, 05:28:45 PM »
Thanks Trouts. My media player seems comparible to the one you linked. You can also telnet into and play with the coding of the media player. I wish I knew more programming and I could help there.

Anyways please keep me posted

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Re: Streaming my n7 onto my tv
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2012, 05:47:31 PM »
So far I have upgraded the firmware, attached a USB hard drive and several flash drive to my media appliance.  Works great on all tested file types and the new firmware loaded like eating pie.  Somehow it knows how to turn on my TV and set the proper HDMI port when I start it up -- impressive.  Picture quality is pretty good...still learning how to toggle the settings properly....  more later

Update:
Changed the TV Out settings and picture quality is now 1st rate.

Got this Nexus 7 app and it works great - sees the media player via WiFi -->LAN -->Cable to KDlinks and streams it's available content to the TV - impressive.  My only complaint is only the connections/shortcuts they provide are available. Trying to discover if one can add more.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bianor.ams&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5iaWFub3IuYW1zIl0.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2012, 11:09:58 AM by Bigtroutz »

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Re: Streaming my n7 onto my tv
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2012, 10:58:39 AM »
I just discovered this:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/42491/how-to-remote-view-and-control-your-android-phone/

Using java you can view the screen of your Nexus 7 on your computer.  Make sure you have the adb drivers installed, and usb debugging on.

I figure that I can hook my N7 into my laptop, and connect my laptop to my TV via HDMI.

However, the problems. At least on my Windows XP laptop (7 years old... it's my work computer), this is extremely slow and laggy, not usable for games. It also seems like sound is not piped through. It uses the micro-usb port to connect to the port of the laptop, so I cannot connect my xbox controller via the otg cable (this would be ok if bluetooth worked properly).

I will try this method on my Windows 7 corei7, 8GB RAM laptop at home and see if it's a bit faster.

But at least I got video to pipe over!

I've been reading about setting up your N7 as a VNC server, but you need to root to do that. And I haven't rooted yet, but there are a lot of VNC apps on google play...


*EDIT*
Ah apparently this androidscreencast has:
- Slow refresh rate (about 4-5 fps)

Dang. Though perhaps a better one is here: http://blogjakes.com/android-screencast-tools/ (Nope! Tested, all super slow. Will test at home on my Windows 7 machine, but I have a feeling it is just slow.)

This one is MUCH better: http://www.mightypocket.com/2010/09/installing-android-screenshots-screen-capture-screen-cast-for-windows/
Since it has a full screen mode (which looks awesome), but it's still a very low fps and isn't usable to movies or games.

Also, using adbWireless app you can connect your N7 to your computer wirelessly, but again for rooted users only.

« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 12:13:46 PM by ivan »

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Re: Streaming my n7 onto my tv
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2012, 09:16:10 PM »
besides the iMediaShare, I tested BubbleUPnP.  Works well as far as N7 and local area network file streaming to the KDlinks, which it sees among the list of DLNA 'renderers'.  So far it appears to work the same as iMediaShare.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5idWJibGVzb2Z0LmFuZHJvaWQuYnViYmxldXBucCJd

Also looked at & tested a bunch of duds but no point in adding those here.

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Re: Streaming my n7 onto my tv
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2013, 09:59:07 PM »
After trying half a dozen media servers, I have settled on Plex Media Server as the most capable and easy to use application.  The server app on your desktop is free but the Android Client costs 5 bux.  It is a variant of XBMC but has better DLNA / PUnP off the shelf integration. 

Definitely worth taking a look at.

http://www.plexapp.com/

Plex for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexapp.android&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5wbGV4YXBwLmFuZHJvaWQiXQ..

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Re: Streaming my n7 onto my tv
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2013, 09:37:02 AM »
@Bigtroutz

Glad to hear you like Plex.  I love it on my PC/Roku and was looking at the android app to watch my Plex library but hadn't investigated it as a server.

Thanks!

Pete

 


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