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While I do think they have some nice specs like the HDMI out and are a good fit for a big Amazon customer I also see some disadvantages that make me still prefer the Nexus 7. First off both Kindle Fire HDs lack GPS, gyroscope, NFC and I believe a few other sensors such as a magnetometer all of which the Nexus 7 has. That means no location based apps or map services will work accurately with them and if you try and run apps that require these they simply won't run on the Kindle Fires. Another thing I don't like is that this isn't really a 'tablet' experience. The Jelly Bean Android OS let's you customize your Nexus 7 any way you like it with wallpapers, screensavers, widgets and any additional special features you want to add. As a 'Google Nexus' device you're also going to always have the latest and greatest tablet OS on your tablet. Also you can use all the great google services such as gmail, google calendar, Google Voice Search, Google Now etc on the Nexus 7. NONE of that is available on the Kindle Fire's. You are LOCKED into Amazon's ecosystem and have to use that crappy carousel that you can't change as the OS (it's built on top of Android 4.0...already a generation behind our Jelly Bean Nexus 7s). You're tied to Amazon's email client and their book and movie stores. No Google Play or outside apps or content. The Amazon ecosystem has 50,000 apps vs. the Google Play Store's 600,000+. And while Amazon has a ginormous book store to choose from...we have access to that too via the Kindle App. Therefore much of the advantage of the ecosystem is basically negated. The only real thing that Amazon offers that they don't make available to the Nexus 7 and other android tablets is their Amazon Prime video service. But with Netflix and/or Hulu and all the other great video sites out there for the Nexus 7...who cares? We get everything they have and more...and often without the $79 fee/year that they charge The one thing I'll cede to the Kindle Fire HD is that you are getting 16GB for the price of 8GB. But you're also getting a quad core Tegra 3 processor in the Nexus 7 vs. a dual core in the Kindle Fire HD. Screen resolution of the 7 inch is the same in both, 1280 x 800. Now the Kindle Fire HD 8.9 does have a nice high resolution screen...it's really just about the size of an iPad...much bigger and not as portable as the Nexus 7...plus it's $299. The bezel on these Kindle Fire HDs are huge. The Nexus 7 is lighter and has a much smaller bezel making it more portable than the 7 inch KFHD as well. Finally, while the LTE option is nice...you're not getting a whole lot of data for $49.99 a year. 250MB? I'd blow through that in a weekend. Much rather tether my Nexus 7 to my 'all you can eat' plan on my phone. Of course there is a rumor that Google is coming out with a cellular version of the Nexus 7 in a few weeks so we'll have to wait and see what they offer. Personally, I don't want another expense/contract. Wi-Fi + tethering when I need it is fine with me for my Nexus 7.Finally, both these Kindle Fire HDs have ads forced on the user! You can't opt out...so every time you turn the tablet on you see these ads on the front page. No thanks! So in a nutshell I'd still pick the Nexus 7 over these.
A counter to your counter . With the Nexus7 you don't have to wait weeks for a custom ROM to get the latest version of Android and months for that matter to get a really stable version via CyanogenMod etc. With the Nexus 7 your tablet is always up to date from day one as soon as the latest version gets pushed to your tablet. No waiting or rooting needed for that full tablet experience. Also, personally, I find the 'carousel' of the Kindle Fires to be stifling. It's really just a catalog...it's not really a full blown OS. It' more like having a grown up ipod that plays videos and shows books in addition to music than it is a real tablet OS. There's no depth or flexibility to it. Can't even put a wallpaper on the thing.
Neither company would ever release monthly sales figures. Amazon hasn't ever broken down Kindle Fire sales by numbers and frankly I doubt we'll get those kinds of specifics from Google either. Frankly I'd rather keep this forum focused on the N7 anyway. Having one thread discussing the comparative positives and negatives of each is fine but I don't think having sub-forums for every competing tablet that comes down the pike is beneficial for the forum. The iPad Mini is rumored to be coming out next month as well so we'll have yet another competitor in the ~7 inch market...and then I'm sure there will be more and more. I think HTC is rumored to have a new one coming as well. Then next year a new Nexus 7 will probably be released with upgraded specs etc etc. It'll never end. Maybe I should create a sub-board at some point called 'The Competitors' or 'Competing Tablets' or something similar. For now just having it in 'The Lounge' is fine though.