Just Found 'TV Portal'

[matt]

Sorry, Anger+Coffee=Rant. Let my passion overcome me and became bombastic blowhard.

As a musician, I have heard both sides of the argument. Those who are only in it for the money vs those who have an urge to create and share.

Technically, every bar band should be paying royalties for the songs they cover. Might be a good thing if they did, original music instead of top 40 might draw me back to the bar scene.

[bjs229]

I remember of all bands, musicians, people it was Lars Ulrich and Metallica that started this whole BS. A musician myself, I used to respect them back in the eighties when they basically paid for their first recordings and would give them away. They pretty much preached that it was all about the music and to F@# &! The Man. They were the torch carriers for the "never sell out" movement and then they end up starting a greed revolution. Ultimate Hypocrisy. The name of their next album.

[Bigtroutz]

So, they pulled the app - let me check if my app still runs ....brb .....  yep still runs !!

I still like it a lot.

Yeh, the whole deal with music and video copyrights is all twisted out of all reality, but greed does wondrous things to humanz.... LOL

It certainly bears little resemblance to the original intent when big corps own the music copyright and the original artist has to beg for residuals... stupid for them to sign away their rights, stupid for the legal system to allow such goings on.

[matt]

If I remember right, 2.5% goes to band and 2.5% to copyright owner. With tunecore e.g. a fee of 10$ gets your music on iTunes, amazon etc. and all money goes to you.

I'm not advocating piracy, I realize that under current law copyright owners not doing their due diligence and going after violations run the risk of their work becoming public domain. I'm looking for balance and uncommon sense.

If I define everything in absolutes, it's only to find that balance.

Maybe we need a paradigm shift, if there were a format change from CDs to DVD audio I would have to rebuy everything once again. 24 bit 192khz 5.1 surround with CD image and MP3s and liner notes, artwork, interviews, performances, lyrics etc. would be a massive download and more economical to buy than pirate. Then I would need better speakers and amp. Everything is mixed these days with too much limiting and compression and reamping to make a maximum volume at the expense of dynamics.

[loociddreemr]

I do not find that this app is doing anything unethical.  The app serves as a directory of internet sources that are offering a video stream.  The app inputs the source URL into the media player of your choice.  Even the profit made by the paid version is compensation for the convenience of the app, not the rights to the media. 

I am not in opposition to digital media streaming or sharing.  When a third party circumvents the DRM and in turn makes profits by distrubuting that media directly, a different can or worms is opened. 

I do not see the P2P file sharing as a cut into the profits of any artist or actor.  In the case of visual media, profits are made from merchandise, box office sales, and third party advertising.  A television channel makes money from the commercials.  Movies actors make the money from the box office.  The DVD sales are not the main source of revenue.  This is fracitonal in comparison.  If a consumer watches visual media without making compensation because of the convenience, this is no different than if they would have otherwise not watched it if compensation was required. 

With auditory media, the artists make their revenue in concert tickets and merchandise.  The album sales is again fractional in comparison.  Any "true" artist should be giving their music away just for the advertising so that in return those consumers would pay for the experience of a live concert which cannot in any way be captured into an audio recording. 


So piracy? Eh, I don't think so.. more like free advertising.

[bjs229]

The developer got back to me and let me know that they are taking off the limitations of the free app until they can get their situation sorted.

[bjs229]

In a nutshell. Who should be just damn grateful for their success? The average person finishing their download or the band with the 500 women and piles of money that is being"exploited"

[matt]

The developer got back to me and let me know that they are taking off the limitations of the free app until they can get their situation sorted.

I love it when support doesn't pull the non mea culpa it's the hardware routine.

So maybe lofi should be freeware and a loss leader to premium content.

[bjs229]

TV portal got pulled off of Google again. The new apk comes out today and is going to be available on other outlets. I should have one in a few hours. If anyone wants it I will link to my DropB when its in my hands.

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[matt]

A web site alternative is project free tv.
http://www.free-tv-video-online.me

IF you want to watch on computer or htpc to your tv.

TV portal facebook page with download info.
http://m.facebook.com/TVPortalApp?id=497518200267051&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTVPortalApp&_rdr

If you already have the app, you can update it in the app's settings instead of the market.

[bjs229]

They sent me the new update . Wont be released until later tonight.https://www.dropbox.com/s/jmlkti7g3dl26qn/TVPortal%201.0.13.apk

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[bjs229]

Love this app. Great support.

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[MrFound]

is the update out yet?

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[bjs229]

The update is in my drop box link above. Not sure if it was released officially yet.

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[loociddreemr]

Updated from your link last night. Thanks. Nothing in GP yet.

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